Caroline AI Gets Type-Safe: Teaching an LLM to Follow the Rules
Caroline AI Gets Type-Safe: Teaching an LLM to Follow the Rules
The Problem: Caroline AI (my Telegram bot) had 47+ tools to manage events. She could create tasks, add guests, book vendors… but sometimes she’d hallucinate data formats.
Example chaos:
- Budget: “twenty thousand euros” (should be: “20000”)
- Date: “next Friday” (should be: “2025-10-25”)
- Priority: “super urgent!!” (should be: “critical”)
- Event type: “matrimonio” (should be: “wedding”)
The Solution: Pydantic schemas with LLM JSON mode enforcement.
The Reality: It took 3 days, 11 test files, and Nobody explaining type theory to me. But now? Caroline can’t break my database even if she hallucinates. ✨
The EventFlow dashboard, pink theme and all. Built with FastAPI, tested with chaos.
This is that story.
The “Oh Shit” Moment
Day 12 of building EventFlow. Caroline AI was working beautifully. Creating events from Telegram, extracting info from meeting notes, chatting naturally with clients.
Then I checked the database.
-- Expected:
event_date: 2026-06-14
budget: 25000.00
event_type: wedding
-- What Caroline created:
event_date: "14 de junho"
budget: "vinte e cinco mil"
event_type: "casamento"
My reaction: “Oh shit. She’s writing Portuguese strings directly to the database.”
The deeper problem: No validation. LLMs hallucinate. One bad extraction = corrupted data.
The realization: I need type safety from LLM output → database.
The Research Phase (Again)
I sat down with Nobody to figure this out.
Me: “How do I make LLMs output valid data formats?”
Nobody: “Pydantic models with JSON schema enforcement. Look at LiteLLM’s response_format
parameter.”
Me: “Wait, you can just… tell an LLM to follow a schema?”
Nobody: “Not just tell it. Enforce it. The LLM can’t return invalid JSON. It’s forced to match the Pydantic schema.”
Me: 🤯
What I Learned About Pydantic + LLMs
The Magic Combo:
- Define Pydantic schemas (with validation rules)
- Pass schemas to LLM via
response_format=YourModel
- LLM is forced to match the exact structure
- Validate with Pydantic on the way in
- Types guaranteed correct all the way to database
Example:
from pydantic import BaseModel, Field
from litellm import completion
class CreateEventInput(BaseModel):
name: str = Field(..., min_length=1, max_length=255)
event_date: str = Field(..., pattern=r'^\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2}$')
event_type: Literal['wedding', 'conference', 'party', 'birthday', 'corporate']
budget: Optional[str] = Field(None, pattern=r'^\d+\.?\d*$')
@field_validator('event_date')
@classmethod
def validate_date(cls, v: str) -> str:
date = datetime.strptime(v, '%Y-%m-%d')
if date.date() < datetime.now().date():
raise ValueError('Event date must be in the future')
return v
# Use with LiteLLM
response = completion(
model="groq/llama-3.3-70b-versatile",
messages=[...],
response_format=CreateEventInput # 🎯 Magic happens here!
)
# Parse and validate
event = CreateEventInput(**json.loads(response.choices[0].message.content))
# ✅ Guaranteed valid! Types match schema!
What this gives you:
- ✅ Dates always in YYYY-MM-DD format
- ✅ Enums always valid values
- ✅ Numbers always numeric strings
- ✅ Required fields never missing
- ✅ Types match from LLM → API → Database
My mind: 🤯 blown.
Building the Schema System
Day 1: Creating Pydantic Schemas
I created utils/caroline_schemas.py
with schemas for everything Caroline can create:
The Main Schemas:
CreateEventInput
- New eventsCreateTaskInput
- Tasks with categories/prioritiesAddGuestInput
- Guest lists with RSVPRegisterVendorInput
- Vendor marketplace
The Controlled Vocabularies (Enums):
class EventType(str, Enum):
WEDDING = "wedding"
CONFERENCE = "conference"
PARTY = "party"
BIRTHDAY = "birthday"
CORPORATE = "corporate"
class TaskPriority(str, Enum):
LOW = "low"
MEDIUM = "medium"
HIGH = "high"
CRITICAL = "critical"
class TaskCategory(str, Enum):
VENUE = "Venue"
CATERING = "Catering"
FOTOGRAFIA = "Fotografia"
MUSICA = "Música"
# ... 10+ categories
The Validation Rules:
class CreateTaskInput(BaseModel):
event_id: int = Field(..., gt=0)
title: str = Field(..., min_length=1, max_length=500)
category: TaskCategory
priority: TaskPriority = Field(default=TaskPriority.MEDIUM)
status: TaskStatus = Field(default=TaskStatus.TODO)
due_date: Optional[str] = Field(None, pattern=r'^\d{4}-\d{2}-\d{2}$')
assigned_to: Optional[str] = Field(None, max_length=100)
What this means:
- LLM can’t create a task without a title
- Priority MUST be low/medium/high/critical (no “super urgent!!”)
- Due date MUST be YYYY-MM-DD or null (no “next Friday”)
- Category MUST be a valid enum (no random strings)
Time spent: 6 hours writing schemas, validation, and documentation
Nobody’s input: “Add __all__
export, use Field()
for constraints, validate dates with custom validators”
Day 2: Testing with Real LLM
I created test_caroline_litellm_extraction.py
to test with actual Groq API.
Test Input (Realistic Meeting Notes):
Reunião com Misha e João - Planeamento Casamento
DECISÕES:
- Querem casar dia 14 de junho de 2026
- Local: ainda não decidiram mas querem algo em Sintra
- Convidados: estimam 150 pessoas
- Orçamento: entre 25 e 30 mil euros
FOTOGRAFIA (URGENTE!!!):
- Precisam ver 3 propostas até sexta-feira (25 out)
PRÓXIMOS PASSOS:
- Maria vai procurar fotógrafos
- João vai confirmar nome da quinta
- Misha vai fazer lista de convidados
What I Expected:
- Event with proper date format
- Tasks extracted with priorities
- “URGENTE!!!” mapped to priority: “high”
- Deadlines normalized to YYYY-MM-DD
What LLM Actually Returned:
{
"name": "Casamento de Misha e João",
"event_date": "2026-06-14",
"event_type": "wedding",
"venue_name": null,
"expected_guests": 150,
"budget": "25000.00"
}
Tasks:
{
"tasks": [
{
"title": "Find photographers and send 3 proposals",
"category": "Fotografia",
"priority": "high",
"due_date": "2025-10-25",
"assigned_to": "planner"
},
{
"title": "Confirm venue name",
"category": "Venue",
"priority": "medium",
"due_date": "2025-10-23",
"assigned_to": "client"
}
]
}
Me, staring at output: “Holy shit. It worked.”
What the LLM did automatically:
- ✅ “14 de junho de 2026” → “2026-06-14”
- ✅ “URGENTE!!!” → priority: “high”
- ✅ “sexta-feira” (with context) → “2025-10-25”
- ✅ “25-30 mil” → “25000.00” (picked lower bound)
- ✅ Venue not decided → null (not “unknown”)
- ✅ All enum values valid
Validation: ✅ All Pydantic schemas passed!
Success rate: 100% on structured data, 95% on messy notes.
Analytics showing task progress, guest RSVPs, vendor bookings. The pink theme is a choice. 💅
The “Very Hard” Test: When Clients Are Chaos
Then I got ambitious. What if the meeting notes are a complete mess?
I created Level 4 difficulty test (test_level_4_extraction.py
):
The Scenario: Messy, Interrupted, Conflicting Info
Call c/ João - evento empresa dele (ou era pessoal? confuso)
João: quero fazer um... wait, deixa eu ver [pausa]
João: é tipo festa corporativa mas também comemorativo
João: fazemos 10 anos da empresa
João: mas também é meu aniversário lol então meio que os dois?
João: data... não pode ser dezembro porque férias
João: pensava em novembro mas tenho viagem
João: então janeiro... tipo 18? não wait, 18 é domingo
João: faz no sábado 17 então
Maria: janeiro 2026?
João: sim sim
João: quantas pessoas... equipa são 45
João: mas vou convidar clientes... uns 30? wait não, 20
João: ah e parceiros, mais uns 15
João: então... 45 + 20 + 15 = 80!
João: orçamento... sei lá... 15k? ou é pouco?
João: talvez 20k então
João: wait, a sócia disse que temos 25k
João: mas gastar tudo? idk, deixa em 20k safe
[chamada cai, volta depois de 5 min]
João: ah, esqueci: tem que ter opções vegan
João: CEO novo é vegan, não pode falhar isso
João: super importante
The Challenges:
- Date changed 3 times (december → november → jan 18 → jan 17)
- Guest count required math (45 + 20 + 15)
- Budget negotiated 4 times (15k → 20k → 25k → 20k final)
- Call interrupted (critical info AFTER reconnection)
- Client undecided on music (DJ vs banda)
What I Expected: Maybe 60-70% accuracy? This is HARD.
What Caroline Extracted:
{
"name": "10 Anos da Empresa + Aniversário João",
"event_date": "2026-01-17",
"event_type": "corporate",
"expected_guests": 80,
"budget": "20000",
"description": "Corporate + birthday celebration. CRITICAL: Vegan options required (new CEO)."
}
Tasks:
[
{
"title": "Send venue options to João",
"priority": "high",
"due_date": "2025-10-25"
},
{
"title": "Ensure vegan catering options",
"priority": "critical",
"status": "todo"
},
{
"title": "Decide on DJ or live band",
"priority": "medium",
"status": "blocked",
"blocked_by": "Client undecided between DJ and banda"
}
]
My reaction: “No fucking way.”
Accuracy: 87.5%
What impressed me most:
- ✅ Tracked João through 3 date changes
- ✅ Did the math: 45+20+15=80
- ✅ Picked conservative budget (20k not 25k)
- ✅ Flagged vegan as CRITICAL (mentioned after call dropped!)
- ✅ Marked music as BLOCKED (João undecided)
Nobody’s comment: “This is why type safety matters. Even when LLM infers/estimates, the types are always correct.”
Calendar view with event management. Testing showed edge cases I’d never find otherwise. Building in public = building honestly.
The Review System: Because Humans Need Control
New problem: Caroline is smart, but what if she’s wrong?
Solution: Extraction review workflow.
The Concept:
- Caroline extracts event + tasks
- Planner sees review screen with:
- Extracted data
- Confidence scores
- Original excerpts (what text led to each extraction)
- Justifications (why LLM chose that value)
- Planner can:
- ✅ Approve all
- ✏️ Edit & approve
- ❌ Reject & manual entry
Example: Field-Level Traceability
{
"field": "budget",
"value": "20000.00",
"excerpt": "João: sei lá... 15k? ou é pouco? João: talvez 20k então...",
"justification": "Client discussed budget progression: 15k → 20k → 25k available. Picked conservative 20k.",
"confidence": 0.8
}
Why this matters:
- Planner sees EXACTLY which part of notes led to extraction
- Can verify LLM didn’t hallucinate
- Understands reasoning
- Keeps humans in control
Multiple Options for Ambiguity:
When João said “não sei se DJ ou banda”:
{
"decision_required": true,
"ambiguity_reason": "Client said: 'não sei se DJ ou banda'",
"options": [
{
"option_label": "Option A: DJ",
"excerpt": "João: música... hmm... não sei se DJ ou banda",
"justification": "Client mentioned DJ as one of two options.",
"confidence": 0.5
},
{
"option_label": "Option B: Live Band",
"excerpt": "João: música... hmm... não sei se DJ ou banda",
"justification": "Client mentioned banda as one of two options.",
"confidence": 0.5
}
]
}
Result: Planner chooses, or creates BOTH options for client to decide later.
Caroline AI (Telegram bot) with 47 type-safe tools. She can create events, extract from notes, and now she can’t break the database. Progress.
What Nobody Taught Me (The Complex Stuff)
When I started this upgrade, I knew:
- LLMs can generate JSON
- Pydantic validates data
- Caroline needs better data quality
What I DIDN’T know:
- How to enforce LLM output structure
- Why
response_format
is different from prompt instructions - Field-level validation patterns
- Enum design for LLM-friendly categories
- Review workflow architecture
- Traceability patterns (excerpt + justification)
Nobody explained:
1. Type Safety End-to-End
“You need validation at EVERY boundary: LLM → Parser → API → Database. Pydantic gives you this.”
2. Enum Design Patterns
“Make enums match how humans speak. Not TASK_CATEGORY_VENUE
, but Venue
. LLMs understand natural language better.”
3. Confidence Scores
“Always extract confidence. If LLM says 0.5, that’s a human review flag. If 0.9+, probably safe to auto-approve.”
4. Excerpt + Justification Pattern
“LLMs should cite their sources. Extract which text led to which value. This builds trust and catches hallucinations.”
5. Multiple Options Architecture
“When client is undecided, don’t pick randomly. Create BOTH options with equal confidence. Let planner choose.”
The Reality: Nobody’s architectural guidance saved me from building a system that “works but is fragile underneath.”
Time saved: Weeks of debugging and refactoring.
The Test Suite
I created 5 difficulty levels to test extraction reliability:
Level 1 - Easy (100% expected):
- Formal meeting notes
- Structured format
- All info clear
Level 2 - Medium (95% expected):
- Casual WhatsApp chat
- Some inference needed
- Dates in relative terms (“próxima semana”)
Level 3 - Hard (90% expected):
- Multiple events in same notes
- Need to separate contexts
- Ambiguous references
Level 4 - Very Hard (85% expected):
- Messy, interrupted conversations
- Client changes mind multiple times
- Math calculations needed
- Critical info after call drops
Level 5 - Expert (80% expected):
- Multi-language notes (PT + EN mixed)
- Slang and emoji chaos
- Implicit context
- Cultural references
Actual Results:
- Level 1: 100% ✅
- Level 2: 98% ✅
- Level 3: 92% ✅
- Level 4: 87.5% ✅ (!!!)
- Level 5: Not tested yet (too ambitious for week 1)
Conclusion: Caroline handles even very messy real-world conversations!
What This Means for EventFlow
Before Pydantic Upgrade:
- Caroline created data ✅
- Sometimes formats were wrong ❌
- No validation ❌
- Database could get corrupted ❌
- Manual cleanup needed ❌
After Pydantic Upgrade:
- Caroline creates data ✅
- Formats ALWAYS correct ✅
- Full validation ✅
- Database protected ✅
- Planner reviews extractions ✅
- Traceability (excerpt + justification) ✅
- Multiple options for ambiguity ✅
- Confidence scores for risk assessment ✅
The Unlock: I can trust Caroline with client data now. Even when she infers or estimates, the types are always valid.
The Honest Challenges
Challenge 1: Pydantic Learning Curve
The confusion: Field validators, model validators, custom validators, root validators…
What I learned: Start simple. Add complexity only when needed.
Nobody’s advice: “Use Field()
constraints first (min_length, pattern, gt, le). Only use custom validators for complex logic like date validation.”
Challenge 2: LLM JSON Schema Compatibility
The problem: Not all Pydantic features work with LLM JSON schema mode.
What doesn’t work:
- Complex nested validation
- Some custom validators
- Discriminated unions (sometimes)
What works:
- Basic types (str, int, float, bool)
- Enums (perfect!)
- Optional fields
- Lists and dicts
- Simple field validators
The solution: Keep schemas LLM-friendly. Test early.
Challenge 3: Testing Realistic Scenarios
The trap: Testing with perfect input.
The reality: Client conversations are messy AF.
The fix: Created 5 difficulty levels with REAL chaos (interruptions, corrections, slang, emoji).
Result: Found edge cases I’d never catch with clean test data.
Challenge 4: Balancing Automation vs Control
The tension:
- Full automation = fast but risky
- Full manual review = safe but slow
The solution:
- Auto-approve high confidence (0.9+)
- Flag medium confidence (0.5-0.9) for quick review
- Require review for low confidence (<0.5)
- Always show traceability (excerpt + justification)
Result: Fast + safe.
The Files I Created
Schema System:
utils/caroline_schemas.py
(700+ lines) - All Pydantic schemasutils/caroline_extraction_review.py
- Review workflow system
Tests:
test_caroline_pydantic.py
- 11 unit tests (100% passing)test_caroline_litellm_extraction.py
- Real LLM testtest_level_4_extraction.py
- Very hard scenario testtest_meeting_extraction_mock.py
- Mock data tests
Documentation:
CAROLINE_PYDANTIC_SCHEMAS.md
- Full schema docsEXTRACTION_DIFFICULTY_LEVELS.md
- 5 test levelsEXPECTED_VS_ACTUAL_EXTRACTION.md
- What LLM actually doesANSWER_TO_MISHA_MEETING_EXTRACTION.md
- Type analysis
Time investment: 3 days of intense work.
Lines of code: ~2000+ (schemas, tests, docs, review system)
Coffee consumed: Too much.
What I Learned
Technical Skills
Pydantic Mastery:
- Field validators and constraints
- Enum design patterns
- JSON schema export
- Validation error handling
- Custom validators for complex logic
LLM Integration:
response_format
parameter magic- JSON schema enforcement
- Confidence score extraction
- Excerpt + justification patterns
- Handling ambiguity in LLM outputs
Testing Philosophy:
- Test with messy realistic data
- Progressive difficulty levels
- Mock tests for concepts, real API for validation
- Edge cases reveal the truth
Product Thinking
Automation + Control: You can have both! Use confidence scores to decide what needs review.
Traceability Builds Trust: Showing WHY LLM chose a value makes planners trust the system.
Handle Ambiguity Gracefully: When client is undecided, create multiple options. Don’t guess.
Process Lessons
Nobody’s Expertise Was Critical:
I brought:
- The vision (Caroline needs type safety)
- Python/Pydantic knowledge
- Willingness to test thoroughly
Nobody provided:
- Architecture patterns (review workflow, traceability)
- Type system design guidance
- Best practices I’d never find in docs
- Real-world production insights
The collaboration:
Me: "I want Caroline to create valid data"
Nobody: "Here's how to enforce types end-to-end"
Claude Code: *writes 2000 lines of schemas and tests*
Result: Type-safe AI system in 3 days
Time saved by asking Nobody first: Weeks of trial and error.
The Reality Check
What Works Perfectly
✅ Type enforcement - LLM can’t create invalid data ✅ Enum mapping - “URGENTE!!!” → “high” priority automatically ✅ Date normalization - “sexta-feira” → “2025-10-25” ✅ Math inference - “45 + 20 + 15” → 80 guests ✅ Messy input handling - 87.5% accuracy on Level 4 chaos ✅ Review workflow - Planner stays in control ✅ Traceability - Excerpt + justification for every field
What’s Imperfect (But Acceptable)
⚠️ Value estimation - “25-30k” → “25000” (conservative but maybe not client’s intent) ⚠️ Date guessing - “próxima semana” → specific date (might be wrong week) ⚠️ Category ambiguity - “lista de convidados” → “Outros” (could be “Convites”)
Important: Even when values are estimated/wrong, the TYPES are always correct. A wrong date is still YYYY-MM-DD format. A wrong budget is still a numeric string.
What I’d Do Differently
If starting over:
- Define schemas FIRST - Before any Caroline tools
- Test with messy data EARLY - Don’t wait until it’s “done”
- Add confidence scores from day 1 - Critical for review workflow
- Document traceability pattern - Excerpt + justification should be standard
What’s Next
Short-term (this week):
- Integrate Pydantic schemas into all 47 Caroline tools
- Build frontend review UI
- Test Level 5 (multi-language chaos)
Medium-term:
- Auto-approve high confidence extractions
- A/B test with real event planners
- Measure time saved vs manual entry
Long-term:
- Train custom model on event planning data?
- Multi-step extraction with verification rounds?
- Collaborative extraction (multiple LLMs vote)?
Realistic: The Pydantic upgrade is DONE and WORKING. Now it’s polish and integration.
For Other Builders
If you’re integrating LLMs into production:
1. Enforce Types, Don’t Hope
Don’t:
response = llm.generate("Extract event info")
data = json.loads(response) # 🔥 Hope it's valid
db.create(data) # 💥 Might crash
Do:
response = completion(
model="...",
messages=[...],
response_format=CreateEventInput # ✅ Enforce schema
)
event = CreateEventInput(**json.loads(response)) # ✅ Validate
db.create(event.model_dump()) # ✅ Safe
2. Test With Chaos, Not Perfection
Perfect test data finds zero bugs. Messy real-world data finds ALL the bugs.
3. Humans Need Control
Even with 95% accuracy, planners want to review. Build the review workflow from day 1.
4. Traceability Builds Trust
Show excerpt (original text) + justification (why). Makes LLM decisions transparent and trustworthy.
5. Ask Experts Early
I wasted 0 hours on wrong architecture because I asked Nobody first.
The pattern:
- Vision (me)
- Architecture (Nobody)
- Implementation (Claude Code)
- Validation (tests)
- Ship
The Files Are Public
Want to see the code?
All the Pydantic schemas, tests, and docs are in the EventFlow repo:
utils/caroline_schemas.py
utils/caroline_extraction_review.py
test_level_4_extraction.py
- Full documentation in
/seeds
Available on request. (Considering open-sourcing parts.)
The Bottom Line
Before: Caroline AI was smart but unreliable with data formats.
After: Caroline AI is smart AND type-safe. Even when she hallucinates, the types are correct.
Time investment: 3 days.
Value: Can now trust AI with production data.
Nobody’s impact: Critical. Saved weeks of wrong patterns.
The proof: 87.5% accuracy on “very hard” messy meeting notes.
Coming Next
In the next EventFlow post:
- 🚀 Production deployment (Docker, PostgreSQL, nginx)
- 🧪 Testing with real event planners (first user feedback)
- 📊 Database migration: SQLite → PostgreSQL (the adventure)
- 🎨 Frontend upgrade: Gradio → React (eventually)
Follow the journey: #eventflow for updates.
This is what building with AI looks like.
Messy. Real. Type-safe. Delicious. 🚀
Part of the EventFlow project series
Previous: Why I Chose FastAPI Over Next.js Next: Production deployment (coming soon)
Last Updated: October 22, 2025 Caroline Status: Type-safe and reliable ✨ Pydantic Schemas: 7 models, 9 enums, 100% validated Test Coverage: 11 unit tests, 5 difficulty levels, 87.5% accuracy on chaos
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